rob gilley

East and West

| posted on January 09, 2012

Rob Gilley

Previously in denial about his photographic past, Rob Gilley now rummages through his trove of mediocrity.

If you’re looking for surf website page views, there’s few better ways to pad the numbers than to set off a West Coast versus East Coast surf debate. Just take a side, kick back, and simply watch the online comment boards fill up the with gallons of transcontinental venom.

To me, this whole East versus West thing seems a bit silly. Like comparing blondes to brunettes, or beer to wine, or Lucky Charms to Cocoa Puffs.

Are we that competitive as a species that we have to make our surf spots compete too?

Sheesh.

With the risk of sounding Reynoldsian, personally I’m just so happy that Planet Earth has oceans and weather to create swell trains on oceans and that there’s different types of land that can change these swell trains into rideable waves that I’m not really worried about which place is better than another place.

Seriously—even if it’s on Mars, and it’s going off, and I get to Mars or I’m on Mars already, then it’s all bueno.

If you remove the competitive aspect, however, a non-partial analysis of the surf on the Eastern and Western shores of the United States is actually pretty interesting. The combination of meteorological, topographical, and oceanographic variables involved is kinda cool. Further, some of the sociological and philosophical aspects of why surfers insist on arguing for their respective home turf also seem to be worth mentioning.

Like the jingoistic patriot who claims his country is better than anyone else’s without ever visiting anyone else’s, the East versus West debate is usually done by surfers who have never explored the length of their own coast, let alone the other side of the continent.

For example, most San Diego regulars have no idea what Palos Verdes is like, let alone New Hampshire, and many Florida surfers have no idea what it’s like to surf in Montauk, let alone the Ranch.

Yet they argue until they’re blue in the face.

As a long time California surfer and surf photographer, and a person who has seen a handful of good days up and down the East Coast, I thought I might offer my perspective.

The first thing that West Coast surfers need to know is this: if you happen to score a good day on the East Coast, chances are you’re going to get more barreled in one session than you have all year. Because of the nature of the offshore winds that follow the local storms, and the pier and jetty adorned, close-to-shore, top-to-bottom type beach breaks that line the coast from South Carolina to New York, you’re going to get pitted off your gourd. Think of a combination of Oxnard and Huntington on the best Santa Ana swell day of the year.

On much of the East Coast, the swell might not last more than eight hours and you might not be able to do a proper turn, but who cares: you’re going to spend a lot of precious time ensconced in Mother Nature’s womb.

And what those East Coast surfers who haven’t been to the West Coast need to know is that it ain’t all Huntington Beach: California alone offers 700 miles of the most varied, hard-to-pigeon-hole surf possible. Just when you think it’s crowded, you’ll find a perfect spot with two guys out. Just when you think it’s mushy, you’ll score an epic tube orgy. Just when you think it’s localized, some hard-ass looking guy with mutton chops will give you a righteous wave. The west coast of the United States is like several countries in one. How can you generalize a coast that includes Mavericks, the Ranch, Trestles, and Black’s? Ocean Beach, the Harbor, Rincon, and the Cliffs? Nelscott Reef, Pleasure Point, Malibu, and Oxnard?

If the North Shore is the 7-mile miracle, then it can be argued that California is a 700 mile one.

And as the first couple of weeks of this January have demonstrated, once the Pacific gets going, the West Coast is a virtual backstop that receives consistent swell for days on end.

On the other hand, a frustrating thing about many West Coast spots is that most of the long period groundswells can be shadowed and inconsistent, further detracting from already crowded conditions.

An uninitiated surfer with a rudimentary knowledge of meteorology might be able to write off East Coast surf because of consistency using the fact that winter storms on Earth travel westward. Well, as it turns out, not exactly. Because of the warmer waters of the Gulf Stream, and the associated travel route of a classic Nor’ Easter, weather fronts actually push off the mid-Atlantic coast and push northward before heading towards Europe. This can create some very powerful, short period south swell for the North Atlantic States, who further benefit from the offshore winds that follow in a Nor’ Easter’s wake.

However, these swells usually coincide with extremely cold conditions—some of the coldest conditions consistently surfed by man—and require deep blue, vacated nut sacks to challenge.

But let’s also not forget that in summer and fall, Atlantic hurricanes, unlike their Pacific counterparts, actually travel towards the desired target.

By the same token, there’s lesser known meteorological surf-associated patterns on the West Coast too. In the spring, for example, while Central and Northern California surfers curse an all-day, howling North-West wind, San Diego surfers wake up to consistent, peaky, clean surf the following day. And not everyone knows that there’s so much swell north of Point Conception in the winter time that there’s several spots up there that need the swell to go down to break properly. When Southern California is dead flat, Central and Northern California can be overhead and reeling.

And speaking of West Coast swell, with Mavericks and long period/underwater canyon spots like Black’s, the West Coast of the United States holds some of the biggest rideable surf on the planet.

In addition, some of the best spots on both coasts are unknown to many because of privacy and/or localism. Most surfers will never see photos or know what a good day at the Ranch or Palos Verdes or Martha’s Vineyard or islands off Maine look like, so you’ll have to trust me when I say that they can go off big time.

We could go on and on, but the bottom line is that there’s great surf on both coasts of the United States, and we should probably just shut up, surf, be glad that surf exists at all, and stop disparaging our transcontinental brothers.

Except for Florida, that place sucks.

West Coast representative, Blacks Beach. Photo: Gilley

The Outer Banks, holding it down for the East. Photo: Lusk

  • Lusk

    Sam Hammer, New Jersey

  • si senor

    Great post….couldn’t be more right. I have been lucky enough to surf the ranch many times and have seen it in all its glory several times. After all of my travels excluding the Mentawai’s have yet to see waves AS PERFECT as The Ranch. Litterally turning each corner on the road and seeing Razor’s go off, then Big Drakes go off, then Little Drakes(probably one of the best user friendly right barrels anywhere), St. Augustine’s and Rights and Lefts….not to mention Cojo even though it is Bixby. The sheer variety of waves and predominant offshore winds not to mention feeling like you are living in a Steinbeck novel with ZERO developement. That place is truly God’s country. Even though people access it easily with Ski’s now and the locals aren’t too friendly…it is nice to know a place like that exists so close to the rest of Socal….East Coast gets its waves but the West Coast will always hold my heart.

  • marco melendez

    And west coast has baja california

  • Steve Helmuth

    You are on crack. The east coast and FLORIDA may not have the most consistant surf. But Florida alone (that place sucks cooment???) has produced and is producing the CREAM of THE CROP. of young surfers. Evan GHeiselman WILL be aforce to be reckoned with on the world tour. So keep talkin sh** and we will just keep the world title here in sucky FLORIDA. Bite me CA

  • Nelson

    Great you like west coast, stay there!

  • http://www.islandofdesign.com tim finnegan

    Isn’t oregon on the west coast, this place gets the best waves by far. Other than that California sucks crowded and everyone who surfs there thinks their Kelly Slater. At least in the north east we get winter were the water is 34 air is 20 and all the kelly slater types are wearing their snuggies dreaming of california, you can have it.

  • Lanceman

    Nice article Rob! Very balanced and descriptive and you had me convinced this was an unbiased piece,…..and then you slam Florida! Really dude?!?!

  • Punter 6669

    Hey Si Senor , “Shut the fuck up”!

  • sam loving

    Florida sucks? Evan Geiselman, Kelly freaking Slater, the Hobgood brothers, the Thompson brothers, and need i say more?

  • twon

    ranch locals are such kook fucks….. it bewilders me! california localism is the most overrated thing. think how many people go surfing on a day with swell, think the last swell, not the big one, but the wednesday/tuesday one before,,,, 300 guys out at blacks, 500 at the stretch of trestles, 200 at hb, another 300 at rincon, and dont forget about all the spots in between, and the shift changes (some people surf once a day, others all day), so roughly 10,000 people go surfing when surfline says it is going to be 8 foot

  • keith lokilua

    Yo Steve get off your soap box little John John is a beast

  • http://tikidude.com Tikidude

    Lived in Santa Barbara and San Diego for a couple of years and caught great waves all over from the ranch to blacks beach!. One thing I missed about the East Coast (especially Florida) is the warm water. No stuffy wetsuit and juicy hurricanes and north swells!

  • Jason Ramos

    I’m an east coaster in South Carolina. Here our spot is The Washout and even though it’s not the world’s sickest beach break, it definitely is an awesome place to learn! I think that’s what makes the East Coast great, all of the different waves on offer and how great they are to learn with. There’s so many cool little waves here! Warm water above 80 degrees for 5 months a year helps too. I do love California though! I was lucky enough to surf in the San Diego area a few years ago and it was so rad! If only I could take the San Diego perfection I witnessed and mix it with our warm water…oh wait that’s Indonesia.

  • Steve (world traveler) Wildey

    I just love surf………period!

  • yep

    Besides all of the great waves up and down the entire CA coast…yes access to Baja is another perk making CA that much better. Sure CA has crowds at the big name spots and the East Coast gets really good at times….you still can’t beat the consistency and variety of CA as a whole compared to the East

  • origami

    im in new england and just got laid off and would give my frozen left nut to be in ca right now. la nina sucks ass for waves and snow in the ne. it does get astoundingly good here though but less often. however, when it is good you can end getting wave after wave after wave without hardly anyone around and generally people are much nicer. lived in sd for a year and the people ruin a lot of days that would otherwise be really nice, also I’m a kook by west coast standards so that doesn’t help. ciao

  • Andrew

    My home spot is a very popular left point in new hampshire and i would do anything to live in california…well no, but id definitely prefer living there as a surfer.

    i tracked the days i surfed starting in november..I would surf whenever it was possible, no matter how bad it was. if it was rideable id go (sometimes it wasnt and id literally be standing in the water waiting for a knee high wave). i only surfed 8 days in november, and 7 in december. BECASUE IT WAS ONLY POSSIBLE THAT OFTEN.

    it gets good here in nh…like 20 days a year i would say it is actually GOOD. probably surfable between 50 and 75 or something.

  • Robbie

    Rob,

    I moved to NJ last year to work in in film in NYC and while I miss the consistency of California, you are quite right about the quality and the hollowness of the waves here on the East Coast.

    However, summers here are horrible and stay flat for weeks, and when there is even the tiniest bump in the water, your worst nightmare paddles out. Kooks of every type on SUP’s, longboards, and funshapes come in like locusts. When the water hits 60 degrees, the “kook eggs” hatch and sadly most of them were never taught the rules of priority or right of way, and unfortunately injuries are common. Some of the hardcore, year-round surfers won’t even paddle out from June through September.

    However the most terrifying this for NJ surfing isn’t the hordes of summer kooks, the traffic, the $10 daily beach-use fees, the horrid parking, or even the summer-long black ball. No, summer is only one season. The scary part about surfing here is the fact that the state of NJ seems to have declared war on surfing. Every day another surf break is dismantled, destroyed and gone forever by poorly planned beach replenishment projects. As I type this another break is being destroyed by this misguided projects.

    Imagine every break from WindanSea to Swami’s, or Trestles to Huntington Beach Pier, buried forever. Imagine waking up for a dawn patrol and instead of seeing the natural contours of your home break, you see a 30 ton earth movers and a perfectly groomed sand beach, and miles and miles of shore dump closeouts. This is the reality here. NJ is losing their surfing heritage, little by little, every single day and so far no one, including the thus far impotent Surfrider Foundation, has done anything about it.

    It’s just a matter of time before a greedy developer looks at your break and plans to build a marina, a seawall or a private beach. Regardless of where we are from, what board we ride, what our skill level is, as surfers we need to stick together. Otherwise, the thing we love will simply disappear.

    Respectfully,

    Robbie Nelson

  • corey quest

    seriously….all in all, the east coast is good, but the west coast is better. case closed.

  • Brett Barley

    epic article…. so true.

    “except for florida… that place sucks.”
    …also true.

  • Scott

    Dude? Florida Sucks, really? I’m sure that was some sort of comedic attempt but unfortunately not a very good one. Now we have a bunch of Idiots slamming Florida, wtf.

  • Jim Garmon

    “Deep blue vacated nut sacks” ??? My amigos and I would beg to differ…vacated? I think you’re mind is wandering into dangerous rips. Anyway, Thank God for both coasts in the greatest country on Earth!!

  • Matt

    I live in the east, lived in the west too.
    Ya, we get our days and it’s nice to get barreled.
    The occasional long period is a rare bird, again nice.
    But…
    US East to West is apples to oranges.
    US West to AU East is oranges to oranges.
    More easterners go west for a reason.

  • Wilhelm

    Grew up on the East Coast. Logged thousands of hours in the Outer Banks Coastline. Spent My College Years in Oregon NO Cal Traveling and spent the last 10 years Surfing So Cal. I can say without a doubt that the biggest difference between these two coasts is the volitiliy diffrence. The East coast can go from Nothing To Whomping Overhead Barrels with Current that takes you miles down the beach in one session. Tons of ins and outs and lots of air sections. The waves on the east coast tend to FEEL more powerful for thier size and are constantly Changing making it a virtual wonderland of a skatepark all year round. Be it Nor Easters or South Swells from Hurricanes youre going to find TONS of sections and black holes and will probablly log more time actually standing up on youre board than on the West Coast. There are some underwater point conditions at some of the barrier islands and up north and there are Big Jetties that stick out a mile into the ocean to clean up some swell for some nice soft healthy lined up surf. The WEST Coast,,,Predominately more stable. The Swells come in with a very trackable sense. Long range big swells that tend to feel slow and weak. But because they are much larger typically the seem monstrous. The west coast is made up of Deep water Shelfs knocking down the Power of the waves once they have left Hawaii and in certain cases Like Blacks the Water Travels down a Canyon and builds you can get a very heavy wave. However with that being said the Same Heavy wave on the East Coast…which is very rare to get double over head tends to be MUCH more Powerful as it dumps directly onto the Barrier Islands and Underwater Sand bars. You will never get the Massive Mavericks type swell consistenly on the East Coast though so for Big Slow Rideable Maneagable surf that you count on to give you soft turns and down the line speed and more graceful archs and flow stay on the West Coast. Even the Sand Bars on the West Coast tend to lead a bigger but WEAKER and SLOWER top to bottom and typically force you to outrun the sections just to make the completion. If youre looking for shortboard quality nooks and crannies with an unlimited supply of differential and top to botttom waves that actually hold up then the EAST COAST is a fun place. No matter where you are though you have to know how to read the swell angles and know your local breaks to maximize youre surfing. Unless of course you live in Hawaii where youre probablly just Laughing at this Debate because its pointless compared to that.

  • Scotty Sherin

    Yeww Sammy! Nice shot boys!

  • Rickter

    Florida Sucks????
    Really???
    You must have had your head up your ASS during last hurricaine season!!! “Irene” 10 ft overhead. But thats fine with me…. Please keep spreading the word…. Florida sucks, and you shouldn’t bother coming.

    ps. Do you remember when 5 of the top 15 rated surfers in the WORLD were form Florida? Or was your head up your ass then toooo.

  • yes and no

    To Wilhelm:

    I agree that the Outer Banks can pack punch as well as some other sand bars along the east coast. BUT above Point Conception the Beach Breaks pack quite a wallop probably more so than the best of the East Coast…think Morro Bay, Ocean Beach, etc….thats the real deal up there….however even certain beach breaks in Socal can punish you when breaking El Porto, Silverstrand, Blacks, Imperial….then Baja has some really heavy waves too….BOTTOM LINE every place in the world has it days, and even the East Coast can punish, but the REALITY is California as a whole tip to tip has way more consistency & power Year Round and a larger Variety of Points, Reefs, beachies, Big Waves, and small waves than the East Coast. Don’t get me wrong it would be great to score the East Coast, but West Coast is a way better place to live.

  • Skud

    The East Coast is a great place to live all-in-all, and so is the West Coast (except for most of LA, that place sucks balls). Love your final little jab at Florida, I’ve always found the “Florida Sucks” cliche to be quite funny, because it really does suck most of the time, unless you have access to a boat, then it’s not so bad. Jersey goes off as good as anywhere you could travel to, if you’re willing to put up with frigid winters and painfully flat summers. Maybe not as big, but easily as good. NY is the same. OBX arguably gets more truly good barrels than anywhere on either coast, but outside of Nova Scotia, you’re not gonna find too many rides longer than a minute anywhere out East. I’ve caught amazing waves on both coasts, though I’ve admittedly done a lot more surfing back East, and both are worthy of all the praise they get from their respective clans, and equally as worthy of all the vitriol from their critics. A surfer is just as likely to have the session of their life at Rincon or Trestles as they are at Hatteras or Reef Road. Likewise, a surfer is just as likely to leave the water feeling frustrated, though usually for different reasons. SoCal was arguably America’s true paradise 80 years ago, but now LA just sits there, sucking balls. Same could be said for South Florida before our parents’ generation decided to turn it into their personal hospice/graveyard. These days, you have to head north of both places to have any kind of quality of life worth writing home about, unless you’re a multi-millionaire, and even then there are better places to be. If you live out East and you want to move out West, do yourself a favor and settle a little to the north. If you live out West and you want to move out East, do the same. Buy a good wetsuit and you’ll thank me when you get there. Or, if you really wanna be happy, learn to sail, buy a seaworthy boat, sail to the Caribbean or the South Pacific, and never look back.

  • Zodiacwarpspeed

    Florida does suck. Short, mild winter, long summer, water temp rarely below 70, hot sun, long hurricane swell season (Atlantic and Gulf), frequent Nor’Easters, arguably the hottest chicks on the planet, Mayport Poles, St. Augies, Ponce,Symrna Inlet, 2nd light, Rc’s, Sebastian, Wabasso, Stuey rocks, West palm, Jupiter inlet, South Beach, Key’s Reefs…yeah it sucks.

  • pv locc

    im from SD, but lived in Palos verdes for three years. By far the heaviest locals on the west coast. When it gets good, expect beer swilling beach guards at 8 AM at tc’s. but the funny thing is, they guard waves that get good 3 times a year MAXIMUM. all the waves in pv are super fickle, and require varying swell direction from break to break. BA’s should be called BN’s. Lunada bay is as good as horseshoe, maybe. indicators sucks. hags and cove is a kook fest. Basically what i am saying is PALOS VERDES sucks.

  • mike

    Florida sucks? WE MAY NOT BE CALI, BUT OUR SURFERS ARE MUCH BETTER….SUNRISE SURFSHOP HAS WON SURFSHOP CHALLENGE TWICE, OH BTW…TWO WORDS…KELLY SLATER…SO FUCK YOU ROB

  • JClem

    It’s funny how an article that tries to magnify the rediculousness of the debate between East and West has only further spawned yet more debate in the matter. While I appreciate your efforts to make the EC seem somewhat compareable to the West, your article does a good job of subliminally explaining why the West is indeed the best. Here’s the truth; the East does in fact, suck. Especially Florida. Anyone who tries to play the Kelly, Hobgood, or Geiselman card is just dumb, where do you think those guys are surfing at this very second?

  • Charles

    Funny how this is becoming a legit debate in the past years. Endearing and makes me smile. The fact of the matter is and many have noted it, EC gets great quality, but not too much quantity. I think that spawns a lot of what we produce on the east coast.

    I’ve noticed so many more “traveling bros” from out west come into town looking to score dry tubes and employment during prime time and spend an awful lot of time complaining on one thing being wrong or a spot not doing what they thought it “should” be doing. To quote David bryne and the talking heads, “born under punches.” east coasters want it more because we have it less. As lusk states plain and simple, Hammer Time. The dude wants it. And so do a lot of us. Seems that to be the new now. Harder working pros and….bros.

    As for the surf, “same as it ever was.” :)

  • Herbert Rion

    I’m an East Coast boy born and raised in the SOUTH. I really think the article was more than fair on covering both sides of our great country. What struck me the hardest was the part about Florida sucking. I was raised to not say anything if you don’t have anything nice to say. But Rob is correct in his statement about Florida. I have been to Florida many many times on surf trips with my buddies. Every single time I went down there I went with a positive frame of mind. Thinking to myself that this trip will be better than the last. There were times where I scored Sebastian and it rocked!! Was it worth all the other B.S. I had to deal with for those handful of waves. I had to fight the ridiculous crowd, prove myself, just to get a respectable spot in the lineup. Dealing with the dangerous speeds on 95 (north and south). Not to mention cops harassing me because I had boards on my roof. Hey BABYLON!! Not all surfers are smuggling cocaine from Miami to South Carolina. Some of us are just happy, normal people looking for a different break to ride. These days, the Outer Banks are where I choose to go for short distance trips. The locals are super nice people who treat you exactly how you treat them. FAIR! In Florida I always encounter Northerners who claim to be Southerners. Don’t lie!! You are not From Satellite Beach. You are from Staten Island!! Moving somewhere does not make you local. It makes you a piss- poor unauthorized representative for the area you infected!! Be proud of where you are from and I bet you will find it easier to fit in. Being real is real hard not to respect. I love it when good people from other places visit my hometown break. It’s nice to have a different face/s to party with after a good session. Bottom line is California is more consistent and the water is consistently colder. Right Side Peeps have cold and then eerily warm water with longer periods of drinking booze (between swells) to numb the pain. Florida is a perfectly fine piece of land ruined by its newer occupants. Sorry Florida people, but you are just not all of that and a bag of chips. You are more like, unfortunately ignorant in thinking that when you say, I’m from Florida” I’m supposed to be impressed. It makes my stomach turn to think that YOU ACTUALLY THINK you are looked up to because you are “from” Florida. These harsh statements do not apply to you if you were born in a Florida hospital and your parents were also. and so on and so forth. Every time my Grandmother used to say goodbye to me, she would always say,” Remember who you are!!!!” I would laugh and tell her I would try but you know I’m going out with Ed and John tonight and you know how they are!! It wasn’t until after her passing, I truly began to understand what she really meant by that.
    PEACE!!!!!!

  • east coast surfer

    I moved to the nyc about a year ago, and I have to say, the surfing here sucks (at least on long island). Terribly inconsistent, and as a result, when there is a 2 foot high sloppy bump in the water there are 50 idiots who think they own the place dropping in on you. Seriously, I’ve lived here for a year and seen maybe one day over 3 feet aside from the 2 major hurricanes (granted, I’m a desk jockey now so I can only really go out on the weekends). I’m tempted to sell my gear until I can manage a move out to cali or france.

  • Poi Dog

    I began surfing Florida back in the mid 70s as a teen. We would travel to Cocoa Beach and surf behind the original Quiet Flight Surf Shop, as well as surfing Bethune Beach and Canaveral National Seashore (before it was developed). I have had the opportunity to surf California, as well as the Outer Banks and other spots around the United States. Each one was great in its own right. I now live in Jupiter Florida and and still paddle out (albeit on a 9′ 4″ as opposed to my 6’4″). All I need now is a sweet 4′ day with friends. While Florida may not provide large consistent swells as California, the Outer Banks or other spots do, it is still near and dear to me, my brother and our (now older) surf bros who still surf and remember back when we used to look back at the beach and see my mother (our ride to the beach) sitting on the beach and watching us have fun. Oh yeah, we did score some sweet big perfection in August, 2011 when Irene passed by, as well as some great sessions in the fall. To some of you Flroida may suck, but I say it is all perspective. Thanks Florida

  • joey bag a donuts

    She was living in a single room with three other individuals. One of them was a male and the other two, well the other two for females. God only knows what they were up to in there. And further more Susan, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to learn that all four of them habitually smoked marijuana cigarettes….”REEFERS”!!!
    This whole thread looks like somebody just smoked two joints.
    And stop your bitching. If you don’t like surfing the east coast (New Jersey) and the changes that come along with it, THEN GET THE FUCK OUT.
    Reading the thread, it gets me to wonder why someone would leave cali to surf jersey anyway. Musta kooked up cali too and decided to fuck up jerseys line-up.

  • tommygunn

    i am a 42 year old surfer, and i am ashamed at all this east coast west coast crap ,just surf guy and girls just surf

  • lorraine

    I live in NJ and I’m new to surfing, but what I can say is that the major drawback to NJ surf is water quality. The water’s just f*cking sticky and dirty. Kind of a turnoff. Can’t wait to get my sorry ass to the West Coast, or, of course, Hawaii. Is there any good surfing in the Carribean? That’s closer for me, and cleaner, I would think.

  • PandaCat

    Ya’ll, being a southern surfer from FL, I can say for a fact that the gulf surf isn’t that bad. Yeah, for most of the year the swells suck, but during hurricane season, the Gulf becomes this amazing place for surf. The waters are crystal clear and the sands are white. It’s gorgeous down there. I don’t get why people have to hate on FL.

  • John

    Amazons, “the pass”, is in the Gulf Coast of Florida and its one of the most amazing lefts hands down. Too bad its not so secret anymore and it very rarely goes off. But when it goes off BIG, almost never, Ive never seen anything that compares.

  • Nick

    I dont know why everyone has to hate on FL. I have surfed north florida since age 7 and I have seen some amazing swells (hurricane or otherwise) hit this place. Florida can be amazing it is just less consistent. But you can almost always surf there even when it isnt even ridable by west coast standards! You just pull out a longboard or a fish and ride your shortboard when it gets good. And if you want to see florida getting good just look up some good footage of the Dredge in St.Augustine or some hurricane swell footage from Reef Road in Palm Beach.

    Long live Florida surfing!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • J

    Seek Jesus and HE will solve all of your problems, nothing else will. God Bless.

  • J

    Seek Jesus and HE will solve all of your problems,nothing else will. God Bless.

  • Drew Mofield

    Places like new smyrna beach may not have the biggest waves but is one of if not the most consistent places to surf on the east coast…ponce inlet?sebastian inlet?haha you have the nerve to say shut up stop debating and surf but single out florida?news flash florida surfers are the best of them all thats why they whoop everyone else in the world no matter where they surf,thats not an opinion either thats a fact so why don’t you put that somewhere in your article.